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Charlie Lloyd's Pilot

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Archival labels · Source and context

According to the cited source; not independently certified awards or genetic measures.

Male Birth country United Kingdom According to published sources

Archival photograph identified as Charlie Lloyd’s Pilot, standing in profile with a pale muzzle and chest.
Identity and provenance
Sire Small's Billy
Dam Darby's Kit
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Breed
American Pit Bull Terrier
Born
Historical period
1881 [2]
Reported breeder
John Holden [2]
Historical owner
Charlie Lloyd [2]
Reported usual / chain weight
36 lb · ≈ 16 kg [2]
Historical conditioned weight (pit weight)
27.01 lb · ≈ 12 kg [2]
Reported coat
Black brindle with white [2]
Sex
Male [4]
Country of birth
United Kingdom [6]
Historical country of rearing
United States [6]
Documented place
Louisville vicinity, Kentucky [7]
Documented country
United States [7]
Catalog references
Colby
Historical context

Pilot is the historical dog linked to John Holden and Charlie Lloyd and placed above Mitchell's Paddy in published pedigrees. The individual World record reports 1878, United Kingdom birth and USA historical standing; the year remains a source report without an invented month or day. The 1997 family history places John Holden at the Red Lion Inn in Walsall and says Lloyd brought Pilot and Paddy together on his last trip to America. This describes reported breeding and import context, not proof of Pilot’s birthplace or an import date. Wil de Veer’s 2026 study traces selected American and Dutch AmStaff show winners of 1992–2019 back to Pilot along sire lines. This is a defined historical pedigree sample, not a measured genetic percentage or a claim about every AmStaff.

History & Bibliography

Relatives sharing a sire Charlie Lloyd's Paddy Source-reported

Direct offspring Mitchell's Paddy Source-reported

Relatives →

Pedigree according to published sourcesKnown positions: 18 / 62 · distinct ancestor records: 15Counts describe this view, not evidence reliability. Conflicted and unknown positions remain unfilled.

Facts and sources

Historical reports are distinct from accepted registry data. Sources and review details

Identity and provenance

Archival photograph

Charlie Lloyd’s Pilot · Photographer unknown, circa1881 (repository attribution) · Wikimedia Commons. Repository crop retained without alteration; WebP variants by PITVU.

Photograph source · Reuse basis

Commons identifies the standing dog as Charlie Lloyd’s Pilot and traces this crop to Cockney Charlie.jpg. The complete frame shows the same pale muzzle, white chest, front feet, brindled flank and leash beside Lloyd. Colby’s Book (1997), Cockney Charlie Lloyd section, captions the same seated-man-and-dog image as Lloyd with Pilot, held by the Colby family. The antique-photograph catalog at https://www.pierrespake.com/new-products/cockney-charlie-and-his-fighting-pitbull-pilot independently captions that composition as Lloyd and Pilot circa1881. These identify the photograph; they do not authenticate registry parentage or establish independence of all reproductions.

Wikimedia Commons records this unknown-author historical photograph as PD-old-70-expired and public domain in the United States through publication before1931. The crop derives from Cockney Charlie.jpg, whose history and full contextual scan were inspected and retained. The physical antique-photograph catalog dates the composition to circa1881. PITVU relies on this documented repository public-domain classification, not on mere online circulation or permission inferred from a republisher. Exact original publication details and the exposure date remain unestablished; repository metadata is retained.

Brindle game dog

PITVU · 01M57MZK2P73Q4TGKETY9ZB5W8

Pedigree according to published sources

According to published sources; possible discrepancies. Not accepted genealogy. Excluded from COI, Common Ancestors and Test Mating calculations.

Incomplete pedigree

Complete through G1 · G2 · Missing positions: 2/4

Known positions: 18/62 · Distinct ancestors: 15

Coverage by generation
  1. Generation 1
    Known
    2/2
  2. Generation 2
    Known
    2/4
    Not documented
    2
  3. Generation 3
    Known
    4/8
    Not documented
    4
  4. Generation 4
    Known
    5/16
    Not documented
    11
  5. Generation 5
    Known
    5/32
    Not documented
    27

Counts apply only to this mode, selected branch and depth. Repeated ancestors occupy multiple positions; photographs and awards do not affect completeness.
Accepted registry pedigree

TRACEABLE ANCESTRY

Pedigree explorer

Only independently reviewed, undisputed links appear. Unknown ancestry remains unknown.

Interactive pedigree Test Mating

COI requires reviewed public parentage. Unknown ancestors are not verified founders.

No ancestors recorded in this view

Known positions: 0/14 · Distinct ancestors: 0

Coverage by generation
  1. Generation 1
    Known
    0/2
    Not documented
    2
  2. Generation 2
    Known
    0/4
    Not documented
    4
  3. Generation 3
    Known
    0/8
    Not documented
    8

Counts apply only to this mode, selected branch and depth. Repeated ancestors occupy multiple positions; photographs and awards do not affect completeness.

Sire and dam branches · permanent IDs on every visible record
  • Subject · G0 Charlie Lloyd's Pilot01M57MZK2P73Q4TGKETY9ZB5W8 CH Archival photograph identified as Charlie Lloyd’s Pilot, standing in profile with a pale muzzle and chest.

    Archival photograph

    Charlie Lloyd’s Pilot · Photographer unknown, circa1881 (repository attribution) · Wikimedia Commons. Repository crop retained without alteration; WebP variants by PITVU.

    Photograph source · Reuse basis

    Commons identifies the standing dog as Charlie Lloyd’s Pilot and traces this crop to Cockney Charlie.jpg. The complete frame shows the same pale muzzle, white chest, front feet, brindled flank and leash beside Lloyd. Colby’s Book (1997), Cockney Charlie Lloyd section, captions the same seated-man-and-dog image as Lloyd with Pilot, held by the Colby family. The antique-photograph catalog at https://www.pierrespake.com/new-products/cockney-charlie-and-his-fighting-pitbull-pilot independently captions that composition as Lloyd and Pilot circa1881. These identify the photograph; they do not authenticate registry parentage or establish independence of all reproductions.

    Wikimedia Commons records this unknown-author historical photograph as PD-old-70-expired and public domain in the United States through publication before1931. The crop derives from Cockney Charlie.jpg, whose history and full contextual scan were inspected and retained. The physical antique-photograph catalog dates the composition to circa1881. PITVU relies on this documented repository public-domain classification, not on mere online circulation or permission inferred from a republisher. Exact original publication details and the exposure date remain unestablished; repository metadata is retained.

    Brindle game dog

    Born: 1878 · Source-reported Country of birth: United Kingdom
    • Sire · G1 Not established
    • Dam · G1 Not established

Relatives

Showing up to 64 public matches; this is not an exhaustive family census.

Relatives sharing a sire 1

Direct offspring 1

Historical dossiers

Research dossier

Editorial evidence is separate from accepted ancestry. Original records and prior revisions are retained.

Pilot is the historical dog linked to John Holden and Charlie Lloyd and placed above Mitchell's Paddy in published pedigrees. The individual World record reports 1878, United Kingdom birth and USA historical standing; the year remains a source report without an invented month or day. The 1997 family history places John Holden at the Red Lion Inn in Walsall and says Lloyd brought Pilot and Paddy together on his last trip to America. This describes reported breeding and import context, not proof of Pilot’s birthplace or an import date. Wil de Veer’s 2026 study traces selected American and Dutch AmStaff show winners of 1992–2019 back to Pilot along sire lines. This is a defined historical pedigree sample, not a measured genetic percentage or a claim about every AmStaff.

  1. Reported birth year with unknown month and day

    Source-reported

    FIAPBT record 12598 encodes BIRTHDATE1878-00-00. Only the reported year 1878 is used; zero month/day do not establish a full birth date. This is a catalog report, distinct from the later documented historical period and from accepted registry attributes.

    Source · fiapbt-12598-chronology

  2. Individual source context

    Source-reported

    Pilot is the historical dog linked to John Holden and Charlie Lloyd and placed above Mitchell's Paddy in published pedigrees. The individual World record reports 1878, United Kingdom birth and USA historical standing; the year remains a source report without an invented month or day.

    Source · world-63168-facts

  3. Geographical source labels

    Source-reported

    GameDogs labels Ireland; the other cited catalogue labels United Kingdom. The exact birthplace remains unresolved.

    Source · gamedogs
Bibliography

Bibliography

  1. Louis Colby / Diane Jessup — Colby’s Book of the American Pit Bull Terrier (1997), Pincher / Foundation Pedigrees
    Source · [1], [7], [8]

    1. Louis Colby / Diane Jessup — Colby’s Book of the American Pit Bull Terrier (1997), Pincher / Foundation Pedigrees

      · Secondary history · Accessed

      Family history, T.F.H. Publications, 1997; Pincher and Paddy sections and Foundation Pedigrees chart (printed p.36). OCR is imperfect; prose calls Pilot a grandsire although the chart places him one generation farther back. Text reports75lb; photograph caption reports72lb. Not a contemporary registration certificate; independence of later database transcriptions is unestablished.

    2. Louis Colby / Diane Jessup — Colby’s Book of the American Pit Bull Terrier (1997), Pilot section, event near Louisville, Kentucky, 19 October 1881

      Louis Colby / Diane Jessup · T.F.H. Publications · Secondary history · · Accessed

      Specific family-history account; not independent contemporary certification. Same publication as existing colby-book citation; no independent corroboration claimed. Locator: Pilot section, event near Louisville, Kentucky, 19 October 1881. No image reuse permission is inferred.

    3. Louis B. Colby / Diane Jessup — Colby’s Book of the American Pit Bull Terrier (1997), Pilot import, Pincher upbringing and Tige–Lightner recollections

      Louis B. Colby; Diane Jessup · T.F.H. Publications · Secondary history · · Accessed

      Public OCR of the same 1997 book already cited elsewhere, not a new independent publication. Reviewed sections: Charlie Lloyd’s Pilot, Colby’s Tige and Colby’s Pincher, printed pages26–29. Page images, contemporary import and ownership documents were not independently inspected. Holden’s Walsall context does not resolve the retained Ireland/United Kingdom birthplace conflict. Parker is a reported caretaker, not a newly asserted owner. Topsey and Neitz are contextual names only; no new identities, accepted ancestry, dates or media have been imported.

  2. GameDogs — Charlie Lloyd's Pilot, record63670

    · Catalog record · Accessed

    Secondary user-contributed reference. Original documents and independence from the other references are unestablished; agreement is not documentary verification.

  3. Pedigree Database — Colby’s Pincher, record1375732

    · Catalog record · Accessed

    Secondary user-contributed reference. Original documents and independence from the other references are unestablished; agreement is not documentary verification.

  4. FIAPBT public pedigree record 12598 — Charlie Lloyd's Pilot
    Source · [4], [5]

    1. FIAPBT public pedigree record 12598 — Charlie Lloyd's Pilot

      FIAPBT pedigree catalog · Catalog record · Accessed

      One inspected user-contributed source table with seven explicit occupied positions; linked individual FIAPBT pages are the same catalog, not independent confirmation. Historical identity/parent links are reported, not accepted genealogy. Unknown generations, dates, sex, country and ownership are not inferred.

    2. FIAPBT 12598 — Charlie Lloyd's Pilot, reported year-only chronology

      FIAPBT contributor pedigree catalog · Catalog record · Accessed

      Reused original publicHTML snapshot from18October, re-read20October; SHA256 cf04c456528ffcce66b145282c93f7d379d232eab6d127a42fd641410c88ad8e. Exact subject heading CH CHARLIE LLOYD'S PILOT. Original BIRTHDATE1878-00-00 supports at most the reported year 1878; month/dayzeros are not converted into a full date. Not a photo/publication/import date, not documentary verification and not canonicalDog.birth_date. Prior1880s documentedperiod and all earlier sources remain. Original metadata reportsmale, breederJOHNHOLDEN/ownerCHARLIELLOYD. This scope-specific citation shares the earlier FIAPBT 12598 origin and is not independent confirmation. No image licence is asserted.

  5. World Pedigrees — charlie lloyds pilot, record63168

    World Pedigrees community database · Catalog record · Accessed

    Specific contributor-entered individual catalog, not independent historical confirmation or an official registration. Same identity matched by named parents/offspring. Birth and standing countries are separate claims, not inferred from owner nationality. No photographs or reuse permission inferred. Actual original HTML HTTP200 SHA-256 92181b2f8171de84f5156eda29ca39d201562f24ab0183647c38e3be80bf5e32. Original Weight12.25kg(27.01pound) has no category here and does not overwrite the existing separate chain/pit source values. JohnHolden Walsall address is breeder locality, not a claim for dog birthplace town.

  6. Wil de Veer — The ancestry of the American Staffordshire Terrier and the importance of Charlie Lloyd’s Pilot

    Wil de Veer · American Staffordshire Terrier Club Holland (ASTCH) · Secondary history · · Accessed

    Club-published retrospective sire-line tracing of selected US National Specialty male winners and Dutch club winners, 1992–2019. Not a census of all AmStaffs, independent authentication of every historical ancestor, a genetic percentage or PITVU accepted genealogy. Existing Pilot birthplace-source labels remain unresolved. No modern show-dog identities or photographs copied/imported.

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Sources and review details

Historical dog record

Reported evidence

Publication identifies a historical dog; it does not verify ancestry.

Historical notes

Editorial notes are retained in their original language.

Original intake note, recorded before photograph publication.

Provisional source-reference identity for the owner-authorized reported Pincher pedigree. Not independently authenticated; not counted in the dual-independent-source mass-import quota. Catalog reference is not proof of descent. No accepted parentage or current ownership is asserted.

Reported aliases:

Public historical citations

Source-reported parents

Reported claims remain outside the accepted pedigree and COI until independently reviewed.

Catalog references

Catalog associations are historical references, not proof of descent.

Registry claims and verification

REGISTRATION PROVENANCE

Claims & verification

PITVU entry is NOT formal ADBA/AKC certification.

No primary registration claims recorded.

Recorded aliases

No independently reviewed aliases recorded.

PARENTAGE EVIDENCE

Every claim has a source.

No independently reviewed parentage recorded.

Source references and original documents are private. Verification is a recorded human review, not a guarantee of biological ancestry.