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Charlie Lloyd's Paddy

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Male Disputed Historical period: c. 1878 Birth country Ireland According to published sources

Sire Small's Billy
Dam King
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Breed
American Pit Bull Terrier
Sex
Female Disputed [4]
Country of birth
Ireland [3]
Historical owner
Charlie Lloyd [4]
Documented country
United States [4]
Historical period
c. 1878 [4]
Reported coat
White with black patches / White with brindle patches Disputed White with black patches [3]White with brindle patches Disputed [6]
Catalog references
Colby
Historical context

GameDogs and FIAPBT describe Charlie Lloyd’s Paddy as female, conflicting with the retained male registry entry. FIAPBT names Charlie Lloyd as owner and reports arrival in the USA around 1878: this is an import period, not a birth date. GameDogs explicitly lists Ireland as birthplace and Small’s Billy and King as parents. The Colby family chart instead names Lloyd’s Pansy in the Mitchell’s Paddy maternal position; the separate identities and unresolved parent version are preserved. Villa Liberty’s historical gallery describes Lloyd’s Paddy as white with brindle patches and links the caption to FIAPBT record 12599. GameDogs record 63672 instead says white with black patches. Both descriptions are retained as source reports; this comparison does not resolve the existing sex or parentage disputes.

History & Bibliography

Relatives sharing a sire Charlie Lloyd's Pilot Source-reported

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Pedigree according to published sourcesKnown positions: 30 / 510 · distinct ancestor records: 21

Facts and sources

PITVU · 01M57MZK73S78RWJ5JHC31Q64T

Pedigree according to published sources

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Incomplete pedigree

Complete through G3 · G4 · Missing positions: 5/16

Known positions: 30/510 · Distinct ancestors: 21

Coverage by generation
  1. Generation 1
    Known
    2/2
  2. Generation 2
    Known
    4/4
  3. Generation 3
    Known
    8/8
  4. Generation 4
    Known
    11/16
    Not documented
    5
  5. Generation 5
    Known
    5/32
    Not documented
    27
  6. Generation 6
    Known
    0/64
    Not documented
    64
  7. Generation 7
    Known
    0/128
    Not documented
    128
  8. Generation 8
    Known
    0/256
    Not documented
    256
Accepted registry pedigree

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No ancestors recorded in this view

Known positions: 0/14 · Distinct ancestors: 0

Coverage by generation
  1. Generation 1
    Known
    0/2
    Not documented
    2
  2. Generation 2
    Known
    0/4
    Not documented
    4
  3. Generation 3
    Known
    0/8
    Not documented
    8
Sire and dam branches · permanent IDs on every visible record
  • Subject · G0 Charlie Lloyd's Paddy01M57MZK73S78RWJ5JHC31Q64T
    Country of birth: Ireland
    • Sire · G1 Not established
    • Dam · G1 Not established

Relatives

Relatives sharing a sire 1

Historical dossiers

Research dossier

GameDogs and FIAPBT describe Charlie Lloyd’s Paddy as female, conflicting with the retained male registry entry. FIAPBT names Charlie Lloyd as owner and reports arrival in the USA around 1878: this is an import period, not a birth date. GameDogs explicitly lists Ireland as birthplace and Small’s Billy and King as parents. The Colby family chart instead names Lloyd’s Pansy in the Mitchell’s Paddy maternal position; the separate identities and unresolved parent version are preserved. Villa Liberty’s historical gallery describes Lloyd’s Paddy as white with brindle patches and links the caption to FIAPBT record 12599. GameDogs record 63672 instead says white with black patches. Both descriptions are retained as source reports; this comparison does not resolve the existing sex or parentage disputes.

  1. Historical reference identity

    Source-reported

    The cited sources name Charlie Lloyd's Paddy. This provisional reference is distinct from accepted genealogy; dates, ownership and independently authenticated identity remain unestablished.

    Source · gamedogs

  2. Conflicting published coat descriptions

    Disputed

    Villa Liberty’s historical gallery describes Lloyd’s Paddy as white with brindle patches and links the caption to FIAPBT record 12599. GameDogs record 63672 instead says white with black patches. Both descriptions are retained as source reports; this comparison does not resolve the existing sex or parentage disputes.

    Source · villaliberty-paddy-caption-20261029
Bibliography

Bibliography

  1. GameDogs — Charlie Lloyd's Paddy, record63672
    Source · [1], [3]

    1. GameDogs — Charlie Lloyd's Paddy, record63672

      · Catalog record · Accessed

      Secondary user-contributed reference. Original documents and independence from the other references are unestablished; agreement is not documentary verification.

    2. GameDogs — Charlie Lloyd’s Paddy, record63672, explicit Sire/Dam fields

      GameDogs community pedigree database · Catalog record · Accessed

      Actual public web rendering inspected: subject Charlie Lloyd’s Paddy, sire Small’s Billy, dam King; offspring Mitchell’s Paddy. Contributor-entered source, not official or independently authenticated registration. Normal direct HTTP returned403; no bypass and no raw-HTML capture claimed. Paddy’s sex conflicts: this record and FIAPBT12599 say female, existing PITVU canonical record says male; neither is silently overwritten. The earlier family-book maternal version names Lloyd’s Pansy instead of Paddy; that separate identity and the Mitchell Paddy maternal conflict remain intact. Only the two explicit Paddy parent fields are added; deeper catalog branches are not adopted. Small’s Billy matched to existing Pilot ancestor by the same name and Billy Sire/Parson’s Beauty context, not name alone. King is a bounded reference to this exact maternal field, not merged with a modern namesake. No birth date, country, photo, ownership or licence inferred for King.

  2. FIAPBT — Pincher record5650, reported ancestor Charlie Lloyd’s Paddy

    · Catalog record · Accessed

    Secondary user-contributed reference. Original documents and independence from the other references are unestablished; agreement is not documentary verification.

  3. FIAPBT — Charlie Lloyd’s Paddy, record12599

    · Catalog record · Accessed

    Raw individual HTML200 captured/SHA retained: female, ownerCharlieLloyd, brought toUSA around1878; breeder,birth,colour,weight unavailable. Sex conflicts with retained canonicalmale; no registry sex changed. Import period is not birth. GameDogs63672 explicitly gives Ireland birthplace, USA standing, SmallBilly/King parents and white/blackpatches. The alternate Colby1997Pansy maternal version remains separate. WorldPincher extended chart labels Paddy with UK association without a node field label: not treated as proof of birthplace or a new nationality. No documentary identity authentication or independent catalogue origins claimed.

  4. Louis Colby / Diane Jessup — Colby’s Book of the American Pit Bull Terrier (1997), Pincher / Foundation Pedigrees

    · Secondary history · Accessed

    Family history, T.F.H. Publications, 1997; Pincher and Paddy sections and Foundation Pedigrees chart (printed p.36). OCR is imperfect; prose calls Pilot a grandsire although the chart places him one generation farther back. Text reports75lb; photograph caption reports72lb. Not a contemporary registration certificate; independence of later database transcriptions is unestablished.

  5. Villa Liberty historical gallery — Lloyd’s Paddy caption linked to FIAPBT12599

    · Secondary history · Accessed

    Actual original gallery HTML captured and inspected. Caption explicitly states coat and links exact FIAPBT12599, separate from Pilot12598. One attributed gallery report, not independent verification. Preserve contradictory GameDogs63672 coat, disputed sex and parentage. No image or image permission imported; no inference from photograph pixels.

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Historical dog record

Reported evidence

Publication identifies a historical dog; it does not verify ancestry.

Historical notes

Editorial notes are retained in their original language.

Provisional source-reference identity for the owner-authorized reported Pincher pedigree. Not independently authenticated; not counted in the dual-independent-source mass-import quota. Catalog reference is not proof of descent. No accepted parentage or current ownership is asserted.

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Source-reported parents

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Catalog references

Catalog associations are historical references, not proof of descent.

Registry claims and verification

REGISTRATION PROVENANCE

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No primary registration claims recorded.

Recorded aliases

No independently reviewed aliases recorded.

PARENTAGE EVIDENCE

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No independently reviewed parentage recorded.

Source references and original documents are private. Verification is a recorded human review, not a guarantee of biological ancestry.